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| 2024-10-27 | 0 |
Subtle racism can feel pervasive in Germany, even in workplaces that emphasize inclusivity. Despite strong anti-discrimination laws, unspoken biases and microaggressions often impact people from diverse backgrounds, especially those who visibly differ from the majority. This can show up as exclusion from social circles, being overlooked for promotions, or facing subtle stereotypes. Real progress requires a deep commitment to inclusion, open dialogue, and structural change to create truly welcoming environments.
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| 2024-10-27 | 0 |
A significant driver of Canada’s housing affordability problem is the treatment of housing as an investment rather than a basic human need. Housing has increasingly been treated as an investment rather than just a place for people to live. Homes are seen as vehicles for wealth accumulation rather than places to live. This approach has attracted large institutional investors (multinational corporations) who buy up properties, raising prices and squeezing out potential homeowners, especially first-time buyers. This problem iget worse because of the use of homes as a tax shelter, benefiting those with capital to invest in markets like Vancouver and Toronto. Greed and profit. Failure of our government to ignore this issue and dodge their obligation of providing a country where Canadians can live reasonable and thrive. Unfortunately it's happening around the world. Immigrants are NOT causing the problem. They are the scapegoat.
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| 2024-10-26 | 0 |
It’s not just the immigrants, it’s the handouts the refugees, especially Ukrainian refugees get. At least immigrants work and pay their taxes. Cut back on immigration for sure, but also stop bringing in refugees and giving them handouts when their own country could do that.
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| 2024-10-26 | 0 |
If you’re navigating the permanent residency (PR) process for Canada, Australia, or Germany, preparing for winter and understanding residency requirements are key aspects of your transition. Canadian winters are particularly harsh, with temperatures frequently dropping below 0°C, while Australia and Germany offer a range of climates. Picking the right winter jacket can make a big difference, especially when moving to regions with unpredictable weather. This guide covers essential insights on winter preparation and the PR process for Canada, Australia, and Germany.
\nPreparing for Winter
\nWhen considering permanent residency in Canada, Australia, or Germany, understanding climate differences is crucial. Whether you're working with Canada PR consultants, Australian PR consultants, or Germany PR consultants, preparation for varied climates will help ensure a smoother transition. Here’s what to keep in mind:
\n1.\tExpected Temperatures: In Canada, cities like Vancouver are milder with wet winters, while Toronto faces colder, often icy conditions. Regions in central and northern Canada have extreme lows, such as -19°C in Regina during January. Germany has varied winter climates, while Australia’s milder winters can still feel chilly in certain regions.
\n2.\tChoosing the Right Jacket: For newcomers, warm, waterproof, and windproof jackets are essential for Canadian winters. Parkas, puffer jackets, and wool coats are ideal for different climates across Canada, Germany, and Australia. Parkas offer heavy insulation and water resistance, while puffer jackets are versatile and suited for layering. Wool coats add style but lack water resistance, making them suitable for drier German winters.
\n3.\tTypes of Insulation: When relocating, especially through global talent streams in Canada, Australia, or Germany, picking jackets with appropriate insulation—down for warmth or synthetic for water resistance—is recommended for your first winter abroad.
\n4.\tBudget Considerations: Budget options start at around $50, while high-end brands such as Canada Goose or Arc'teryx offer premium options for harsh winters. Mid-range choices from brands like The North Face provide a balance between quality and cost.
\nNavigating the PR Process and Requirements
\nEach country has unique pathways and requirements for permanent residency. Consulting with professionals who specialize in Canada immigration, Australia immigration, or Germany immigration can streamline the process, especially if you're applying from India or seeking a provincial nomination (like BCPNP or MPNP for Canada).
\n•\tCanada PR Process: Canada offers various pathways for PR, including express entry, provincial nominee programs (e.g., BCPNP, MPNP, NBPMP), and spousal sponsorship. These programs have specific criteria, such as work experience, language proficiency, and educational qualifications. Consultants can guide you through each step, from document preparation to application submission.
\n•\tAustralia PR Process: Australia's PR pathways, like the Skilled Migration Program, allow skilled professionals to work and live in Australia. The Global Talent Stream in Australia also targets specialized talent in fields such as tech and medicine, easing the immigration process for qualified individuals.
\n•\tGermany PR Process : Germany offers options like the EU Blue Card and employment-based visas, making it possible for skilled workers to obtain residency. Consultants can assist with the application process and explain requirements like work contracts and proof of language proficiency.
\nStudying and Working Abroad
\nCountries like Canada, Australia, and Germany provide work and study opportunities for immigrants, making it easier to gain local experience. Programs for study and work facilitate cultural adjustment and open pathways to PR. Immigration consultants can help identify the best routes to achieve your career and residency goals, whether in education, employment, or both.
\nImmigrating to a new country means facing unique challenges, from adapting to climate to understanding immigration requirements. Proper winter attire ensures you stay comfortable as you settle in, and expert immigration advice helps navigate complex residency processes. With the right preparation, you can embrace your new life abroad with confidence.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
Justin Trudeau has destroyed Canada, especially Brampton and Surrey. Our official languages should be English and French, not others. Our values should be Christian, not others.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
Do you wanna make it in Canada? You work for it.. Canada doesn't owe anything to anyone..especially Indians.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
Bring people fleeing war - that makes sense. - They need protection, and opportunity. Especially if they speak English, can find jobs and housing. \nUkrainians have built and fed this country for 100 years - 1.2 million Ukrainians in Canada - they should have priority. \nDumping people in this country - like Roxham Road - was applauded by the Liberal Idiots.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
Immigration needs to stop entirely. I would go so far as to send asylum seekers that are already here elsewhere, or send them home. Especially since the majority of them could have settled in dozens of other countries but skipped over them to come here and America.\n\nShut it down completely and focus on Canadians. But we all know that will never happen. Not with their boss pulling all the strings
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
It is imperative to halt the surge of immigrants to Canada and the rise of deceptive tourism, especially since many individuals are primarily interested in seeking asylum rather than pursuing academic studies. They tend to opt for business management programs, which are the least expensive and allow for quicker entry, disregarding the true purpose of education. Some provinces have started to monitor the influx of international students from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and the Middle East. Furthermore, tourists from these nations often fail to return home. In a similar vein, the United States has introduced a $4,000 charge for tourists, which is refunded when they depart back to their homeland.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
This is disheartening... this means that my husband will never be able to live with us. My children will grow up without their father, and for some reason, Canadians are OK with Canadian children growing up in a broken home. It's going to take 35 months, for my husband to be able to immigrate to this country. That's 2 1/2 year that my kids won't have a dad, our son especially is suffering. He has a serious disease, is often hospitalized, and I'm a married woman living as a single mother. Now I'll need to rely on the government for more financial support, and my 6 year old is actually depressed because his dad is years away from being with him. I work full time, have a great home, and a side business. But now I'll need to depend on meds and disability support to take care of my child, when he has an ablebodied father that can support us, especially when our child is in one of his regular hospitalization. You all are cruel.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
Only if those immigrants will adapt and respect canadian culture. We will have np. But majority especially Indians they stay indian and now canada looks like ?. They can't respect canada like they were given then opportunity to live and work in canada. But idiots dont want to adapt. And you have arab refugees that are protesting they forgot how canada help them. And you have black africans who keep stealing cars and crime rates are very high.
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| 2024-10-25 | 0 |
ALL IMMEGRANTS THAT COMMITS ANY CRIMES ESPECIALLY IN CANADA SHOULD DEPORTED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEIR COURT HEARING PERIOD
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| 2024-10-24 | 0 |
It's ironic when immigrants, who were once newcomers themselves, develop anti-immigrant sentiments and blame immigrants for causing problems. It just doesn't make sense, especially coming from a country like Canada, which is known for its sensible and inclusive approach.
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| 2024-10-23 | 0 |
This is a total failure of the Trudeau government. It shows their interests in Canadian safety and interests. \nThe people who took advantage of Liberal Government stupidity are the Indians and especially Indian Punjabis. They took it granted and now they believe Canadian citizenship is their right. This huge hail of immigrants from Indian punjab created a lot of problems with the Canadian system and culture. They took all the jobs that Canadians had a right to. Cut the long story short . majority of these are not students. They just took advantage of a stupid government in Canada. Deport them all.
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| 2024-10-23 | 0 |
Mexicans in America who made it to America believe trump is not talking about them. Especially if they came her the legal way. When i was in EL Paso i talked to him and they believe that he's not talking about them.
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| 2024-10-23 | 0 |
There are majorly two types of ' outsiders ' that the government takes in : students and asylum seekers. Seen purely from financial viewpoint, homing and providing for the latter group makes no sense at all. They are a permanent leakage of funds without return..\nRegarding students, there are the undergrads who pay 5X times the Canadian students and they are the shock absorbers for fee burden on Canadian students. This category is precious, especially those studying in reputed colleges. Then there's the student who comes for post graduation studies, doesn't pay as much a undergrad but still a valuable resource. Then there's the diploma students who make studies as an excuse to get into the UberEATS, mcdo kind of Job market. Cap on them may be needed to protect Canadian interests. However the last category comes mainly from one province in India who has political clout in Canada, so it is the hardest to curb. Without making this distinction, if the government is going to lump all categories of students as one, then they are throwing the baby with the bathwater.\nIn any case, the person who gets the best of both worlds is the Chinese-Canadian
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| 2024-10-21 | 0 |
I dont see an abuse rather a fact. Not saying she's right. The fact is she's more Canadian than any recent Immigrants. The thing is, dont be so sensitive as it does not matter unless you seek validations from strangers. especially when such talks comes from an elderly person who perhaps not has alot perspectives and understanding of these generation. If one thinks can change the mentality of others, its absolutely not by arguing or filming. It may not work for everyone but show them kindness regardless and if they gave you the chance to speak, have a pleasant and personal conversation that does not involve politics. \nAs for me, wherever i go regardless of the citizenship i hold, i will always remain Ethiopian and i carry that with sooo much PRIDE!!! Stay calm and positive!!!!
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| 2024-10-20 | 0 |
Why do immigrants want to leave their country for the west? For better opportunities, infrastructure, safety? Who made it developed for immigrants to enjoy the fruits of west' success? As an immigrant u have to understand where this hate comes from. Especially when u cant adopt their culture.
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| 2024-10-20 | 0 |
Lets not focus this energy on the elderly of Canada, because change is difficult to accept at a later stage in Life. However, please request the younger canadians to not be racist towards Indians and especially Hindus.
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| 2024-10-20 | 0 |
I am from Taiwan, and I condemn India because if India isn’t held accountable, other countries will follow its example by going to Canada or even the United States to assassinate dissidents. This is especially concerning with China, as Chinese people might travel to these regions to kill us Taiwanese. All movements for national independence should be respected.
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| 2024-10-19 | 0 |
No! These are supposed to be intelligent people. You do your homework before considering going to another country, especially as a student. My parents couldn't raise that kind of money to pay for me to study in another country, or even in my own country. Life isn't fair, but Canadians need priority to be housed in Canada. India has very good schools at affordable prices for Indians, and also very high prices for international students. I looked into studying in India and I couldn't afford it as an International student. India should re evaluate its priorities, before spending billions on space programs. India should also decide who it wants to be friends with. I am sure there are lots of good schools in Russia, who right now it prefers over the West.
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| 2024-10-19 | 0 |
Actually she's isn't wrong if indians start taking over jobs and properties or businesses in canada where will the natives go? It's their country so they have the right to speak up if your presence or actions is hurting them atleast she didn't abuse you she was honest about the problem she and her family might be facing because of indians and indian government should bs ashamed that every year massive amounts of indians abandon their citizenship and settle in other countries spreading like a virus engulfing opportunities that the natives deserved... So if u get hate for that... You can either be shameless and bare it or have some shame and return to your country give the natives some releif.... Put yourself in their place for a second and think...even in india Mumbai used to be peacefull and clean all those beautiful beaches... As soon as people from other states were allowed to settle in Maharashtra they overpopulated the state making it very conjusted for natives....indians especially the sanatani community once they spread beyond a limit in a country they try to force their ideologies on the natives thus ruining the peacefull environment and now even the indian government seems to be involved in a murder of some sikh guy which was expected considering the hate for sikhs they spread here in india which is how they win elections...
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| 2024-10-18 | 0 |
Glad to see a lot of comments supporting her. \nOf course , I don't support being abusive or violent to other people. But what she's saying is true. Especially, a lot of us Indians don't know how to behave when we go abroad , we bring our illiteracy & unethical behavior to these foreign places & pollute it. \nWe need to relearn the basics 1st and then expect others to respect us.
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| 2024-10-18 | 0 |
I’m not anti immigration but I am anti mass immigration especially when they all come from one place. Importing millions of migrants from a different culture all in a short period time is going to cause friction. The new migrants act , behave and drive like they do back home because there numbers are so big. Many are rude and have bad hygiene
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| 2024-10-18 | 0 |
Wow! The comments are quite surprising. If someone has an issue like this, they should take it to the government. Why hate on another person? Hate doesn't solve anything, instead it just increases the hate in more people especially if the person hating and the person being hated on are from different cultural backgrounds.
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| 2024-10-16 | 0 |
Why don't they allow the Palestinians that want to leave out ? They're trapped in there while Israel is taking their land . Yes it is true there's some that might not want to leave. But the ones that do can't get out of there . Egypt won't open the border to the ones that want to leave . Yes they're all so right . All these Arab countries especially the ones that have money ?. They're not taking in any Palestinian refugees they don't want them in their country .
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| 2024-10-16 | 0 |
Please leave INDIANS you guys are spoiling the canadian dream . Because of you guys people from Bangladesh ,Sri lanka ,Pakistan,Nepal ,Maldives ,Malaysia and other countries are judged as Indians because of your reputation .. especially people from Gujarat and punjab are spoiling it big time ..THEREFORE PLEASE LEAVE ANS DO NOT APPLY FOR A VISA. WE CANADIANS DO NOT WANT YOUR LUGGAGE
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| 2024-10-16 | 0 |
A Ukrainian immigrant here. Absolutely in love with beautiful canadian nature, cute little houses, especially townhouses in toronto, just so wholesome. As for life, you gotta be some sort of specialist like a doctor, or a proper construction worker, or a truck driver to have a decent life that goes beyond just getting by and eking out an existence. On my own i can make enough money for food and rent, but thats about it, and im happy about it, really, i get to be alive thanks to canada, but i really hope i could move out of here as soon as it becomes safe, or just move to a cheaper country thats a decent distance away from russia. I ended up being unemployed and i do feel like im in quite a real danger on eventually becoming homeless if i dont manage to procure a job, and you know how the job market is now. As for health care, i simply dont have access to it, at least i dont have a family doctor and have been trying for a while to get one. I haven't tried walking ins yet since i prioritize food over health now but i might someday. I just hope that whatever sickness bugs me is minor, i cant do anything about it. My teeth hurt too, but i cant afford a dentist, and ive found one Clinique in toronto that helps immigrants fix their teeth for cheap, they can help you with three teeth in total, and i've used up one of it, and saving the rest for real emergencies. I cant eat anything except for real soft food, and i know im not gonna get any help i could afford any time soon.\nOnce i get a job i will be saving as much money as i can to leave Canada, i don't know where yet but i'm doing my research and hopefully will find a place, and if not well, sucks to suck. It's hard for everybody out there, i'm just one of the millions if not billions who go through that.\n\nAlso I don’t think ‘nobody wants to live in Canada’ is entirely accurate. It seems that the idea of canada, and the way its marketed, attracts a lot of new immigrants, and a lot of people would love a chance to live in Canada. It's simply not true. But after the fact , once they have , i could believe that some are not willing to stay and might regret the decision of moving in the first place.
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| 2024-10-16 | 0 |
Stop pressuring countries to let migrants in when they have made the informed decision it’s not for them. They have autonomy and a right to refuse migrants, especially when they are responsible for housing and feeding them, they don’t have those resources to do this for long and it’s a drain on the economy.
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| 2024-10-16 | 0 |
Most younger muslims break their own laws every day, \nThings considered Haram , smoking ( even vaping is considered haram) , drinking alcohol, lust , consumption of drugs ( inc coffee or tea , unless decaffeinated) swearing. wearing gold silver jewellery, make up. Gambling, \nMost of them do all the above , in places like luton and London they go clubbing, get drunk , pull girls, sell crack cocaine and heroin .\nHow many do you know who avoid breaking their own religious laws, \nThe ones I know or come across do at least one of the above, especially smoking., girls inc those wearing traditional clothes with most of the face covered wear heavy eye makeup. \nThe ones on British streets telling Christian people certain areas are Muslim law only should focus on their own people who constantly break their own religious laws. \nAnother part of their law says they should respect all people no matter their religious differences. \nLike nearly all religious people they are hypocrites .
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| 2024-10-15 | 0 |
Ummmm ... if you draw a line across Canada, from the West Coast continuing the line across, you capture 70 % of the population. Half way down to the USA border captures 50%. So. The Canadian population clings ..clings .. to the USA. NO,-ONE lives effectively anywhere else, especially in the whole middle AND North of Canada. Canada is more sparcely populated and more centralised than Australia. And whatever Canada us, it is wet, it is cold. It is grey. Oh .. and cold. Very cold. (And grey.)
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| 2024-10-14 | 0 |
Is this Canada or europe? Im Caucasian, and even i wish i could go back to where i came from most days. Especially when i see content like this garbage pop up in my feed. Canadian tax payers wouldnt monetize you so why is youtube?
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| 2024-10-12 | 0 |
In Canada, there is not enough housing and jobs are scarce, especially for anyone at the entry level or basic wage. We've been absolutely swamped. This is not the fault of the immigrants or the students, it's the fault of our extremely stupid and short sighted government. Most of those immigrants I encounter are good people, polite and considerate. But some, well I understand where the complaints about rude and inconsiderate behaviour come from, because it only takes a few bad experiences to get people angry. I've experienced it myself, but most of it (from my experience) seems to be from students who are very loud and impolite on public transit. The housing situation here is INSANE, prices are sky high and very little to choose from. A lot of seniors now can only afford to rent a room (after having worked all their lives and very little to show for it), and prices are up about 50% from only 5 years ago. The government says inflation is a fraction of what it is in real life, and living expenses have exploded. As I understand it, some people made a lot of money offering services to bring students and low wage workers in, with no consideration to the damage they were doing to all of us who were born and raised here - they wanted to make their million dollars. Another problem is that once someone arrives here, what they find is NOT what they were led to believe. What students and immigrants are told they need to live here is an absolute lie, living here in Canada has become very expensive. Many workers are severely under paid, and never even see the legal minimum wage, and the problem with that is, almost no Canadian will be hired on to those jobs - the reasons are that imported foreign workers will work below minimum wage because they are trapped here, and the Canadians already know that they will only struggle if they take jobs that pay so poorly. So yes, a lot of Canadians are VERY angry, and you really can't blame them. Once again, the Canadian government is responsible for much of this, and crooked employers who are willing to take advantage of low wage labour. It's an absolute mess.
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| 2024-10-12 | 1 |
Quater is even better especially for nurses. You can secure a job as a nurse in quater but in Egypt everyone will work as a slave ( doing cleaning and nanny jobs) with loads of other unpaid jobs on top of $400-500/ months. Am surprised you didn't add Egypt to the lists because our people are many there.
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| 2024-10-10 | 0 |
I am sorry to say. This is not India problem. This is a Punjab problem. I have a few rentals and these peoples from Punjab and North India ( delhi, haryana, UP) especially young ones don't follow any rules, they think they can do whatever they want and aren't afraid of laws.
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| 2024-10-09 | 0 |
I am Canadian and a lot of the people I know that are under 30 and especially under 25 are only employed part time (due to lack of work) and still live with parents. I feel it will lead to lots of social issues in future as they are not gaining experience in fields that are valuable while never making enough to live on their own. The high competition and lack of career opportunities will just lead to brain drain. What will be left is a large welfare problem and skilled worker problem as anyone will skills will jump ship. The friends thing is also a BC thing, BC is strange
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| 2024-10-09 | 0 |
Well they do all sort of wrong things especially eve teasing. I saw in my local no frills in Brampton yesterday 4 punjabi looking at girls that work there and making vulgar comments. Poor girls have to tolerate, funnily enough the girls were Indian as well. I think it's vast cultural difference that makes it harder.How do you filter these shit coming into Canada. Also a valid point why government taking refugees. A lot of them come as refugee and they still try to make protests about the politics of their countries. Need a big change in government
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| 2024-10-09 | 0 |
why should the west take those people? The west has no obligation to take them. lets stop our government from taking any refugee, especially those from high risk area
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| 2024-10-08 | 0 |
But Arab world especially Saudi Arabia won't do anything for Palestinians
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| 2024-10-07 | 0 |
Russia would be the first choice for me, especially if you are fluent with the language.\nAustralia is still reasonably good, youth crime is getting out of control with a left wing government in control.\nHopefully a more conservative government gets in so we can clean the place up!
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| 2024-10-07 | 0 |
How about hiring Canadians instead of foreign workers? Especially for that ev plant worth billions. Not a SINGLE Canadian ? parasite, BE GONE ALREADY!
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| 2024-10-06 | 0 |
China or Russia (especially if you speak the language) would be a good country for a Westerner with traditional/human values to move to.
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| 2024-10-05 | 0 |
Well many Indians remain Indians in Canada. Especially not sure naturalized Indians allow their daughters to date Canadians? Dating is a part of Canadian culture, they do not look at caste or religion when children date. So are Canadians also being discriminated against here?
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| 2024-10-05 | 0 |
As an indian living in Dubai. If I feel a place was overcrowded- I would leave, but for some indians its not the same and its quite sad some politicians thinking a densely populated city full of jobless people is okay. Its kind of the opposite reason why indians move to canada(because most of us dont like overecrowded cities-which tends to happen in india). The amoumt of jobs need to increase. The infrastructure needs to increase. Colleges and schools where people actually pay for all of it is necessary. And homelessness needs to be replace by education and housing policies for older canadians especially. Preserving the respect for the elderly. The list goes on- and yes it will increase the amount of jobs, if they build and educate. Also increase the incentive to be educated.
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| 2024-10-04 | 0 |
I'm also leaving, and many persons I know are also leaving, it's not worth, you work to pay bills only, especially rent, and don't get sick because the health system, which is public, doesn't work
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| 2024-10-04 | 0 |
It’s exactly the same in Australia, and has been getting progressively worse under both left and right leaning governments. The conservative government was a disaster for housing/cost of living and the liberals haven’t been much better. The vast majority of elected legislators here are relatively wealthy landlords with substantial investment property portfolios. It’s not in their interests to fix the housing crisis. They also vote themselves huge salaries and regular pay rises. They are relatively immune to the cost of living crisis. Australian food banks and similar charities are overwhelmed. We have two main supermarket chains, Coles & Woolworths. They both perpetuate rampant price gouging with abandon. Big corporations, especially international ones, pay very little to no tax. This is happening all over the world under governments of every stripe.
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| 2024-10-04 | 0 |
However, I can guarantee you that this is false. Many people want to live in Canada, and as French citizens, many of us want to move to Canada. But obviously, as a French and white person, I doubt they let us in as easily as they do Black Africans, Syrians, or Palestinians. I really feel that if you’re African or Muslim, doors are open to you everywhere in the world, especially in North America. But if you’re white, well, they put obstacles in your way to prevent you from coming. I really feel that, and I see it every day, in fact.
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| 2024-10-04 | 0 |
Check them correctly especially remove their pants, mpst pakistani and bangladesi introduce themseves as indian in abroad.
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| 2024-10-04 | 0 |
It’s happening in Australia also it’s getting very sad I think we will be the future refugees like the Irish escaping the potato famine we will have to travel to more affordable countries especially to retire, Is it worth fighting for your country anymore just to end up on the homeless scrap heap.
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| 2024-10-04 | 0 |
I live with 70% inflation in my country and this is what I think: \n\nI don't know if there is a direct translation of this economic model but let me explain: prices increases in two ways, if there is not enough supply, prices will increase and if there is high demand for a product&service, prices will increase. In Turkey, they increase the prices by tricking people that prices will eventually increase, so buy it right now. THIS caused a loop and huge inflation also rush to houses, cars, hard products etc. That way, companies make enormous profits especially construction companies & car manufacturers. Why did government decide to do that so? Because government wanted to secure financial status of these big companies without banks giving them loans by transferring wealth from people to companies.\n\nThere is another side for these moves: Globally, there is an ongoing plan to lower birthrate in well-developed countries such as Canada, France, Germany etc. Why is that? They say, people from western countries create more carbon emissions than people in India, Bangladesh etc and in order to ensure green transformation of energy, birthrate must(?) fall. \n\nThere are also other reasons that we live in difficult times. But that's enough. We, people, have to do something. The day passes without a protest, governments & big companies get more strength and enforces hard conditions on people.
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