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2024-07-08 0
Get out this of this country international students . This is not Punjab !!
2024-07-07 0
First come on student visa with fake IELTS complete the course from Diploma mill,go to Nova scotia and just work in coffee shop and gets the PR was what Punjabis and other students were doing.India students coming from Punjab are illitrates
2024-07-05 0
What a mess. So in a nutshell Punjab East Indians are screwing over other Punjab East Indians. That's what's coming into our country... \nKeep out get lost
2024-07-02 0
I'll be honest while writing this! Being Indian i feel ashamed nowadays bcoz of Trudeau's love affair for Khalistani's. When i came here 6 years it was way better but in last 2-3 years Trudeau has literally dumped whole Punjab into Canada without any screening. This people from my own country don't speak English, don't wanna dress in a civil way, don't wanna act civil, shove their religious thoughts on everyone and feel as if they own everything. Yes me being an Indian says this and yes I've gad enough of this Punjabi's. I came to Canada for a different life but it looks like it's getting worse from bad.\n\nTaxing us till death, handing out welfare cheques to the entitled ones (natives) of this country and treating actual taxpayers like shit is insane. Sorry to say but if actual Canadians don't raise their voice now this people from Punjab will takeover in no time and will overpower you. My heart goes out for actual Canadians who built this country. \n\n\nAnyways much love from a good Indian who actually loves and respects Canada the way it is and not trying to change it ❤
2024-07-01 0
For some strange reason the people from Punjab seem to consider Canada as their own nation. The prode on their faces to live there is so evident. \nThe issue is most of them cant even string a single sentence in English. Which means they have used illegitimate means to get there. Whats the point of IELTS?
2024-07-01 0
I’m a Canadian and my wife is an immigrant for Punjab and even she thinks this is all getting out of control. She came here to start a new life with me after we met and to get away from Indian culture which she thinks is now seeping into everything. In India it’s survival of the fittest, one must do everything they do and take advantage of everything in order to scrap by. Canada and the Canadian mindset isn’t equipped to handle that, so it’s no surprise you’re suddenly seeing Indians everywhere who are telling Indians back home how to exploit the systems to get more money fast. Hijacking what systems Canadians have to gain the social mobility that they can’t have in India but in doing so they’re making it like India. They don’t respect any other culture than their own my wife won’t even step foot in Brampton because it looks, sounds, and even starting to smell like India. And the problem is being exasperated because these people who are from very tight families are trying to bring their whole families too people who are elderly with no literacy or language skills to integrate into Canadian society to work and contribute to the economy so they just live off of their children who came first. I’m not racist all of my friends are international and are of one ethnicity or another and I’ve been to India and love the country it’s beautiful with amazing food lol, but this is getting too much out of hand and we’re letting in the most cut throat Indians in who will exploit everything and step on anyone to get on top. They won’t even respect Canadian laws and customs. We’re not equipped to deal with them
2024-06-29 0
This problem is unacceptable - they want to be here but they don't want to BE Canadian. They simply want to be IN Canada and Trudeau fell for it! They are very racist and shouldn't be approved to come in Canada. If you understood what they think about all other culture you would think twice - just go watch Tiktok they have coverage on what the Indian uncles talk about in Punjab etc. about everyone else. So they get to discriminate in housing market based on race? This is a human rights issue. In addition, we really get the low tier Indians who never had the tenacity to develop a business or master a top skill. Furthermore this mass immigration breeds hate from nationals who feel displaced. We need to clean this up!
2024-06-28 1
Khalistani movement is just a way some people from Punjab try to get asylum in canada..
2024-06-27 0
In your Thumbnail you have shown a man with a Hindu Tilak on forehead, which shows your ill information about Hindu community, which doesn’t agitate on streets for foreign separatists in Canada. Also, the maximum immigration in Canada is from Punjab many of whom are Khalistani separatists and proudly call Canada a mini Khalistan.\nBut maybe you are not aware or bold enough to point fingers at the wrong immigrants policy of Canadian government of getting these Khalistani and Pro Hamas kind of Islamist separatists in Canada in huge numbers changing a future vote share in favour of Liberals in Canada.
2024-06-27 0
I must thank you but I want to correct you above 95 percent of these bogus students are from Punjab they hardly can speak English and are not even worthy of getting admission in good Indian colleges due to their poor education quality, thanks for exposing the Khalistani terrorist from Punjab, and thriving in Canada, Please make a video on air India bombing and Khalistani who bombed the plane.
2024-06-25 0
I am an immigrant from India, came with job offer, earn enough that i do not get child benefits and pay high taxes.\n\nStudents from Gujrat and Punjab from India are literally headaches. Another issue is immigration ( refugees) from Middle East. \nI work my ass off not to pay taxes for immigrants and their benefits.\n\nUnfortunately all of my friends are seriously considering moving out of Canada to US or even India as salaries back in India for our positions is actually better than Canada.\nMost of us are waiting for right opportunities. I feel high tax paying Indian will migrate out in next 5 yrs until some big changes are not bought in by government.
2024-06-19 0
MASS immigration is literally giving our stuff away for free. IE: the value of our currency, our culture, our services, our stand of living, our health and our future. I am a firm believer that many of the so called new immigrants will not remain in Canada for long as they are purely opportuinistic and therfore the folly of this policty will emerge. Brampton is a perfect example of annexation. almost 300K people from India (sikhism and punjab both are indian) pakistan is a neighbor. and 40K Canadians.... LOL OK who is gets their voice heard in elections???? DUHHH!!!! stupid. Any Municipality that sees such a large influx of one particular ethnic group should be very worried.
2024-06-14 0
These purported students from Punjab and Gujarat wouldn't get admission to a plumber's diploma in India. Yet they get a visa and admission to a college in Canada. Where is the scam? Go figure out.
2024-06-10 0
I’m a lifelong Bramptonian, and yes also Indian….?\n\nBUT I disagree with all this BS, all this mass immigration, specifically from one region of India is overboard. Brampton is basically Punjab let’s face it. \n\nMy kids couldn’t get jobs as teenagers at all these restaurants etc because all the international students took over and the managements keeps hiring the international students, they don’t want English speaking Canadians?! WTF.\n\nComplete idiocracy. \nThey are arrogant, they think they can do whatever they want, behave perverse they want, they want to screw the system as much as possible, and they want to dig their heels into Canada without any warranted reasons.
2024-06-10 0
Dumbos government didn't send a plane and asked you to come. You could go other countries for study but chose Canada because it is banana Republic and you know you will get PR after some small bogus course. Australia don't even give PR to people who studied there unless they study the profession which they need. I like to go to Japan and live there so I will go for study there and then demand Japanese government to give me PR??? government is not saying no to you but government wants you to study the profession which is needed not fast food servers, security guard and truck drivers because for these jobs people are already here in Canada in tons. And when you saturate the labour market for these unskilled jobs then the corporations would have upper hands and they will suppress the wages and the living standards of everyone will go down. So don't try to become victim here I know you are Punjabi and I am from third world country too these tactics are old to become victim. Go study skill trade and build home for Canadians and then the government will give you PR no doubt. But you pendoos Jut came from Punjab villages and can't study hard subjects and looking for easy ways to get PR.
2024-06-02 0
it's not just Brampton on. it's the same here in Alberta, there is whole communities where everything is for them , you can't even look at some neighbour hoods for housing because all the realtors are Indian and the sales are only advertised on their sites in their language and not for sale to Canadians. its a big community where we live and were being pushed out.. There's jobs we cant apply for or get because we don't speak Punjab but yet we have to bend over and are told we are racist if we don't hire them and they cant even speak English. I feel like we are being pushed out of our own country, and Trudeau has even said this is what he wants...
2024-05-27 0
Over one million international student comes to Canada every mostly from punjab Indian, most of them stay and live in canada , add the couple hundreds we get as immigrants and you ll realize why canada is Turner into bombay
2024-05-23 0
Canadian students pay less cause we actually contribute to the country all our life with our taxes.. can't come here and get every benefits real Canadians have. Study and leave. This isnt a free citizenship program, you study and go back to punjab
2024-05-18 0
These khalistani will soon ask to form there own Khalistan in bc or Brampton. The region of Punjab in India is full of criminals and drug dealers and they want to come here since no security checks are done and even if they are they can get fake certificates easily. Trudeau and jagmeet gets a massive votes from these guys. The change has to come from the top. Also requirements has to be strict and not soft to come in. This is why we are getting some of the worse people coming in.
2024-05-07 0
Canadians ffs its a request stop saying indians are coming to your country all the time. Most of us don't want to come to that shithole of urs. We are happy in our own country. Most of the indian origin people you took are from 1 state of punjab out of 28 states and 9 f union territories of india so yeah no No f indian is coming to ur country to get settled. That's the impact of ur own politicians work to increase their vote share by getting most of separatist lobby from Punjabis inside your country which has been creating issues inside India since decades now with the help of Canadian govts. Specially Trudeau father n son. You aren't doing any favour to us by taking them. Instead Literally creating problems for indians. Most of the indians living in india won't care if you throw the immigrants out as they aren't there for the betterment for our country India but their self. There are f 1.42 billion people living in india n its not like none of them likes the better life n wealth. But everyone's not greedy like few. Many wants to live in their motherland n stay connected with whatever we have n make it progress out of it. So hv stop using our name for defaming us because of ur own Canadian citizens. They lost their indian tag the moment they gave up their indian citizenship. India doesn't allow dual citizenship so no none of them are indians. They are ur own f Canadian of indian roots?
2024-05-04 0
i am from hamilton and we are still very diverse here. yes brampton is quiet loaded with indians. i think what has failed is the requirements for immigration has dropped. i mean we use to have highly educated people come in but now the standards have dropped. so anyone with low standards can come walk in. pubjabi votes for jagmeet or trudeau and they are the group with highest crimes in india the state of punjab and there is a big drug and drinking culture that comes here. the minute our standards grow up with immigration requirements then we will get more educated bunch coming in. when we have greedy power hungry people run the country this is what happens. now people are fed up. the other day i was at freshco and some white guys started to lecture me and he openly admitted he is a racist. i pulled out my camera and started to record. he backed off but he could have done anything. he rude and stupid. i was also quiet upset. people were not like this and were more accepting. i can understand his frustration but he said openly he was racist and called me Fxxxxxxx indian etc... this is out of line. i also gave him a mouth full. i told him i have been here 35 years and his mood changed but its quiet disappointing how people react. its not safe or respectful. not sure where we are headed in canada.
2024-04-10 0
Trying to find a job here in Canada is insane. i dont live near a big city by any means, but all low skill, fast food/grocery store jobs are now filled with punjabs. i see the job postings and i apply every time, but I'm constantly overlooked because i am not Punjabi. It is illegal to discriminate against job seekers but they do it so blatantly!\nive lived here my whole life, and now trying to get a job that requires no qualifications is one of the hardest things to do. i think immigrants can be beneficial to our society, but not when they come in swarms from the same country, unskilled, and are butting heads against the lower class people already living here for housing and jobs. just, no.
2024-04-08 0
This is not an isolated incident. Brown guys in delivery jobs, especially students from South Asia, face this kind of humiliation in everyday life. Some of these rich white privileged people often forget that while they are paying for the service, they do not own the delivery people. Regardless of numerous such incidents, every year, many Indians are coming to the US or Canada - many legally and some illegally. If Canada removes the visa requirement, tomorrow more than half of Punjab will be empty - this is the reality and still many Indians don't mind the humiliation. Living a life in a Western country, and owning expensive phones and cars that's what most of them want. I'm not talking about the genuine students who enroll themselves in universities, get decent jobs after graduation, and live a dignified life.
2024-03-05 0
On name of labor, we have few thousands gangster getting in Canada from Punjab India
2024-03-05 0
Indian are at every tim Hortons,mc shts,subway,gas stations walmarts, every low income job they have taken over my younger canadian sibling's cant get a job because of these so called high skill immigrants,i knew we are lost when the nation athem was sang in punjab like i was never racist before but the final straw has been broken i officially do not like international students,stay in ir home country ill make sure you wont like it here in canada.
2024-02-10 0
Every economy gets stronger with job creation. The problem in Canada is that taxes kept on increasing, the housing wasn’t developed adequately that skyrocketed the rents but the job market is just shrinking. Most immigrants from India are from Punjab who look for blue collar jobs but with high inflation they are not able to survive or save anything. So they don’t find it lucrative anymore. The new students should do their due diligence before coming otherwise they are going to struggle!
2024-01-23 0
Thank you. I felt so good listening to you both. I have been in Canada since 1974, I was 9 when I came here. I've got an engineering degree fron UBC. Went back to Punjab India first time after 28 years in 2002. I felt at home soon as I got out of the Airport. Since then I've never felt Canada as my home and what makes it worse is that overall Canada is spiraling in a downward direction. The medical system, the immigration system, the housing affordability, the future of our children and grandchildren, to promote and force children into lgbtq community and on and on is just getting worse. Hopefully I'll be out of here in the next two years. Thank you again and very best of luck. You made the right decision!
2024-01-22 0
There is another reason for migration in Punjab that is increasing population same piece land gets divided over generations and its not enough to sustain families so they prefer to send at least one brother out of country while other do farming the one that goes abroad help with school fees, construction of house, cars, etc. if there was a job here they wouldn't move out previous generations use to go in army for same reason.
2024-01-21 17
Canada is attracting the worst kind of international students, poorly educated, poor civic sense, rural men from Northern India esp Punjab. I said this many years ago, to my parents, you're going to see a collapse in social cohesion and we are seeing it in real time. This is having a disastrous effect on health care too, my father waited for 9 hours to get a scan, he lives with me now in the US and it took him 45 minutes to get a scan!!!
2024-01-19 0
Please, provide an explanation, as to why majority of the students are from not from India, sorry they are from Punjab. Hardly any from other other states. All of them studying at phony, questionable colleges. Its a way to get resident status .
2023-11-19 0
I'm not Indian, I'm indigenous from Canada and I grew up in Vancouver, where the population is mostly from Asia. Being surrounded by people of asian descent is very normal for me. I don't expect anyone to assimilate and lose their culture to exist here. I knew we had a large population of Sikhs here but I didn't think it was nearly as many as in India... and now I find out there are more sikhs here than in India. Amazing. I also didn't know we had so many Sikhs in parliament, let alone Indians. My school is mostly Indian and everyone I talk to has come from Punjab. Everyone seems to love it here, and the school is in the middle of little Punjab so I've been told by my classmates it is the perfect place for the students who are homesick because they are surrounded by their community. I rarely hear English when I walk down the halls, there is even a course to learn to speak Punjabi, which I want to take so I can talk to the students who don't speak English as well. We have many large gurdwaras, and one near me I've eaten langar almost everyday for the past 10 years. Most people here know Sikhs to be very generous and humble. It was a shock to me when I heard the president of Guru Nanak Gurdwara was shot, because I believed Sikhs to be very kind and peaceful, and the gurdwara has a very good reputation as they take lots of food into Vancouver and feed the homeless. They even opened a kitchen in the DTES during the pandemic to be able to have food available to the people immediately. No one else did anything like that. They delivered a lot of food. Now they have an auxiliary kitchen in the DTES permanently that serves free meals. I thought more news would come out of the shooting but it seemed quiet for a bit until Trudeau accused the Indian government of the attack. This news also shocked me, so I decided to start looking into it slowly. I couldn't really get a good idea of what was going on until I searched a video for Diwali and your videos came up. I will share it with my husband so he can be educated on the matter as well. Thank you for your diligent research and dissemination of important knowledge.
2023-11-18 0
Andhbhakts should understand this and stop blaming every non bjp sikhs as khalistani.\nAnti Modi/anti bjp is not anti national.\nOnly if Modi develops Punjab just half of what he’s doing in Gujarat and UP, this entire issue would get solved overnight.
2023-11-10 0
Recently i went to punjab 2-3 months ago , i never felt that they are against India , everyone was helpful and they talked with us nicely, i guess these khalistanis are very few compared to others in Punjab, i hope this matter get sort out quickly.
2023-10-27 0
Sikh are the pride of our nation. They represent what brave, honest and integrity looks like. Their roots are laid in Service to humanity. I am proud of my Sikh brothers. All I have felt when I am around them is safe protected and respected. I would once in my life go visit the Golden Temple to pay my respect to this religion dedicated to service. \nThe government need to have a long term and short term plan for helping Punjab. I see how the current govt is vying to get foreign investment in India. I hope, they can set up more economically advantages industries in Punjab and North east of India too. Better times ahead for us, if we stick together and work together
2023-10-17 8
It is sad that Canada is getting occupied by Sikh people and they are leaving Punjab. Most of them are leaving Punjab, just because their friends or relatives have shifted to Canada. It is not an achievement in shifting to Canada for penny jobs.
2023-10-14 0
Beant Singh indeed was responsible of killing thousands of innocent youth of Punjab. Not to point fingers, everyone need to do their own research and not rely on only Indian government provided sources such as newspaper and other media. Now these days media and YouTube channels get paid blindly by our government to defame Sikhs and call them terrorist even if they are fighting for their own rights. In the India airline bombing over 70% were Sikhs that were killed. Ripudaman Singh Malik was found not guilty, but he was shot dead in his car and suspect was not found, only one burnt car nearby. May be it was the same people who bombed Indian airline and killed Ripudaman Singh Malik to defame Sikhs. We all know how our Justice system works; Suspect get created by assumptions and then encounter. Sajjan Kumar is one of the master mind behind Sikh genocide, he was sentenced life imprisonment by Delhi high court in 2018, but he’s out of jail now-why? In 1978 Bholanath pandey and Devendra pandey hijacked airline to release Indra Gandhi from jail. Both of these guys were not arrested/encountered nor called terrorist instead they were given MLA seats; Is this our justices system?
2023-10-12 0
Now you know that how terrorist sikhs are bro this so bad if sikhs want their own nation why people start saying us khalistani and i want to say one thing that khalis meaning is pure and we want a khalsa raj like ranjit singh and before partition we have an opportunity to have a nation and now we want that so how we become terrorists sikhs are helping indians in their harsh times so it should be in people heart of india that they should support sikhs to have a nation because we are facing a lots of problem like natives of punjab are unable to get jobs because outer state individuals are getting jobs and local are still unemployed so this is the reason sikhs are going to other nations and sikhs had sacrificed their lifes and indian people are not understanding
2023-10-10 0
See Punjab give me very thing to your nation when your people were dying because of food \nNow you dogs trying to kill us \nWe come back motherfuckers. We will get khalistan soon
2023-10-10 0
information that is hidden for almost everyone but punjab sikhs know ’ nearly 5 lakh sikhs were killed in that time most of the encounters were to gain rank by police officials torture , rape, and killings of innocent sikhs were common by army and police officials alot of goons were hired by police to kill and rape hindus to set a narrative against militant sikhs because they we’re getting support from public because most of the army was from hindu religion and due to indra gandhi death they were hating sikhs they did medival types of tortures and at that time police can do anything without asking any official they actually beated brutally to my own dad just for fun they were beating and laughing police did alot of looting to gain fortune for their own THESE ARE THE MAJOR REASON MY SIKHS LOOSE SENSE OF TOUCH FROM INDIA and even now if sikhs demand anything even issue like msp kissan the media say khalistani khalistani we tired now
2023-10-09 0
Hindu majority of Hindi belt has been radicalised fully now. Sikhs don’t want to risk lives of their sons and daughters by allowing them live outside Punjab. Since all Sikh youth can’t get desired jobs in Punjab, they prefer Canada Australia UK countries. Non Hindus does not want to risk their lives in Hindu Rastrawadi states.
2023-10-09 0
Very well researched..Such things need to be shared in mainstream media to derail the propaganda run by the Anti India elements...Sikhs are one of the most patriotic communities in the country. People should refrain of relating them to Khalistan..\n\nMoreover, It's high time for Indian Govt to focus on issues faced by Punjab so that Punjabis can have more confidence in them and they don't get the feeling of being discriminated.
2023-10-08 0
This was the exact situation which I explain my friends. I hope every person who has watched the video might get a little idea of the current situation of Punjab and Sikhs. And I must say that majority of Sikhs loves India and doesn’t support the Khalistan Ideology. But I still hope that Sikhs who suffered in 1984 must get justice (because delayed justice has brought some people with disappointment) and there should be more development in the State of Punjab.
2023-10-08 0
Great job n great research by the Nitish Rajput's team. This is 100% true, most of the people migrated to Canada in 80s-90s remember punjab negatively. Most of the news these people hear is through the indian media houses which very negative. They expect the same rights from indian government as they get from Canadian government. Most of the Khalistani supporting got active because of ruling party politics where a regular sikhs whose son, brother n father served in indian army and marines is called Khalistani without any reason. This has definitely created a divide in society, and media houses are also spreading the negativity towards a community. \n\nWahi baat h ki Modi is not india n humei ni pasand uski politics. Doesn't mean ki hum anti nationalist hogye or we hate modi. Bhai nahi pasand humei politics jo society mei divide kre. First thing a sikh child is taught is that everyone is equal. Ab tum fundamentals attack kroge toh humei ni pasand ayega.
2023-10-08 0
To be honest until the people of Punjab doesn't get the solutions for there problems the voice of Khalistan rise again and again because when the country makes there people happy no one wants to separate and everyone know this is the fact that most of the time center government were unfair with Punjab as he told in his older video
2023-10-08 0
Modi never wins in Punjab and this is not my opinion but it is true... watch in 24 election....modi also know that so he influence the s.p to create propaganda on syl.....so he get votes from h.r...... politics is a bad game and who play.........
2023-10-08 0
There was never a national movement in Punjab not before not after partition.\n\nThey always look themselves as different (whakri kaum ) race .\n\n\nYes they were fighting for independence and the idea was same as Muslim league to get separate state for themselves, Muslim league got it but Sikhs didn't that's the starting point of this.\n\nThe only person who is fighting for national interest not for regional or racial lines was Subash Chandra and thus was betrayed.\n\nNow all what is said in this video about gadar party and newspaper was because it's the only way to get maximum support as Gandhi said before independence he tried to unite every one to fight as one same logic was with Muslim league and even Congress and princely states.\n\nAfter independence it was not Glory for all some gets what they want but at cost , some lost their lands , punjab , kashmiri pandits , Hyderabad nizams , Sikkim.\n\nSome who got it didn't able to maintain prosperity like Pakistan and deeply disturbed in racial lines.
2023-10-07 0
Grew up in a traditional sikh family in punjab with the generic beliefs about pakistan being the rival country and punjab's hate towards the incidents of 1984 &1947. Moved to canada when i was 12 years old. Now i hav friends from muslim community, hindi community, afganistan, nigeria, Chinese, japanese and some others as well. We r so close to each other and just enjoy each other's values. We eat what we want and be considerate towards each other's values. I wish something like that could exist in india too. Just geeting along but there is too much division. Unfortunately, seems like its only gonna get worse. Much love to every community in india as well as pakistan. Its possible to get along if we just acknowledge the facts and gain some unbiased knowledge. Thank you for making that first step possible Nitish❤
2023-10-07 0
When you make next part bro..Must include chandigarh issue..we don’t have our capital..we are not getting single penny rom chandigarh GDP because its a UT..how many states of India dosn’t have Capital? Everyone who reads my comment just imagine if Mumbai will become UT Maharashtra ka kyo hoga..same Ahmedabad and Chennai and Kolkata ..Every state has developed capitals but we don’t have..one more thing you missed in 80’s to 90’ there are thousands of fake encounters in Punjab and their next generations is in abroad right now..they don’t have any patriotic. Feelings for India because their parents were killed in fake encounters..Nijjar family also killed
2023-10-07 0
And andhbhakat still thinks india gets freedom from Gandi's charkha???, this punjab mate, knows how to fight against hard times and stanch its rights. They fought for india against Britishers, finished indian starvation as well but india awarded us by making us separate from india. But punjab will cope with this well because have been changing directions of winds for ages... anyway this guy is very genuine, really appreciate him, waheguru ji bless him ❤❤❤
2023-10-07 0
the aiplane blast was planned by RAW to defame babbar khalsa, all the influential indians and Indian diplomats cancelled there flight tickets, because they know its gonna happen\nAnd the CM Beant Singh murdered thousands of sikh youth in fame encounters....thats why he got killed....ask any sikh in punjab abut beant and KPS, they will curse them.\n\nBro if you say that Punjab ka sikh nahi chahta khalistan, to Referendum krlo India me, or sikh koi India me bomb dhamake krte to ghum nahi rahre.... bahar v Referndum hi karwa rahe hao....indian govt should give cahnce and see what hapens,.... the same way Canada gave to Quebec...\npeacefully demnding for a separate ation is not a crime.... we can get seperated by peace...sikhs just want their own control...The same way majority hindu is asking for Hindu Rasthra being a majority.\n\nWhy dont you talk about betrayal of Nehru?? He allured sikhs to be by his side and after India was made, he showed up his real face and deceived the sikhs??\n\n\nWHY DONT SOME ONE TALK ABOUT HINDU RASTRA??? IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL???
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