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With the internet now anyone can do research about a place before you go. I have traveled and lived in other countries and I always research before I go. This guy didn’t follow the process also. He just jumped to the conclusion that he was going to be deported. And then when you break the rules that will hurt your case and not help it

Dude and his family can live here in hiding as long as they want. At least the Trudeau gvt won't deport him and his wife while his kids get locked in a cage at walmart. He's also working. The time is ripe for this family to use the horrors of the US Immigration system as new evidence to appeal his case once more. But, yeah. He really should learn English. There are free classes everywhere. Idk why he hasn't bothered so far. Hell, he could hire a tutor and use old discarded *also free* college textbooks to learn more. Student tutors charge around $25/ hour and would likely sit down with the whole family 2 hours/ week for that pay rate.

I have zero issues with immigrants seeking a better life in another country, being one myself, but a few things about some immigrants baffle me always. How do people expect to be welcomed and accepted by the folks of another country when they don't even bother to learn the language. This guys been in the US for 15 years and can't speak any English? Its not the worse case , I've seen people live far longer 30 or 40 years in countries like the UK where I'm from and they cannot speak a word of English because they choose to live in a self imposed microcosm of the country they came from. \nThey have to understand that it's very insulting to native people and citizens of a country that you want to be treated as a citizen yourself but won't make efforts to adapt to the language and cultures of the country you have chosen to live in, I cannot think of a better way to ostracize yourself than failing to learn the language.\n It would be far easier to have sympathy for your cause if you are able to show that you have integrated and intend to be a citizen of that country 100% and the easiest way is to be able to communicate your cause yourself.

who's fault is that?\nnonmuslims in muslim nations face actual discrimination and prejudice, lacking freedom of religion varying in many islamic nations\nWITHOUT them doing frequent problematic acts or against even the discriminative laws of the nation\n\nin the west? its secular state free for all religions or background , and most of the religious ones don't want to actually integrate and keep loyalty to the very conservative islamic teachings , and seek to change things (applying elements of sharia law and so on) when they can despite the problems it has created in its real world application, that are totally against the secular values of the west and many other nations\nthen we have the frequent islamist radical terror attacks, as well as the neighborhoods where they transform it to something far from secular\n\nand you're surprised with that? look at those muslim woman in the west got interviewed, burqas.. doesn't care about identification issue in public place, and (in this case, judging by the books actually works out) these are the kinds of muslims with the most conservative mindset, thus the woman clad themselves in ninja suit and the guys with long beards and islamic traditional clothings, those are the most conservative of them, far away from being or appreciating secular\ngiven the chance, 100% absolute assertion that these are the ones that will try to change things to be more islamic, in PUBLIC place as well (the religion is that, political islam and public enforcement based on islamic 7th century values is a common thing when they can)\n\nthe ones who are actually integrating are mostly the less religious, actually secular muslims. Well, you can say actually secular iranians, arabians, turks, and so on (as muslims normally refer to the religion, which is not secular at all)\nthose are the ones that do, the west has been giving stage and empower the wrong group of these people

Bring on more sad stories so people will think twice about coming to USA/Canada. By the way $15000 in savings? WTF that is more money than i have in savings. WTF is going on here. This is a simple case of economic migrant who thought he could keep all his money and buy a house in 5 years and get shit free. Pfft Wake up\nOww and by the way I have been working over seas for years and it ended my marriage and i was lonely too. These people think we are Willy Wonka and thinking they have a golden ticket. Meanwhile my mom a first/ second Gen Canadian family can't afford Hydro. She does not get shit from government. Tired of these pathetic sad stories. Cry me a river.

I’m not Canadian, so I don’t have as much of an understanding of their process; however, much like in the U.S., you have to have a legitimate and compelling reason to seek asylum, for example, those escaping a literal war in Syria where death was imminent. Not that I don’t have compassion for this man wanting to better his life and that of his family, but seeking asylum from El Salvador because they have a lackluster economy, crime and violence (while a good enough reason to relocate elsewhere) isn’t a case for asylum. *shrug* Asylum is meant for exigencies, emergencies, imminent danger, which doesn’t look like it applies here. My guess is this man thought seeking asylum would be a way to go around needing expensive documents to do a standard immigration and the process flopped on him.

Canada Law is best. Offcourse He must have something. Which is AGAINST 2 Canada. That why his case reject. I love my Canada

From what I heard coming from other source .Also when I see them at food banks taking home more than $150.00 in groceries from just 1 food bank they goto 9 amonth .their cell phones are top of the line .Clothes and shoes brand name only .Gold jewllery ladys purses $300.00 and up .And they all have cars from 40 thousand and up . One place i never see them is value village .How do they do iit ?I had 2 kids and on welfare a few years back and I had a hard time trying to get some things that we badly needed and could not afford and things were a lot cheaper .The most I ever spent at no frills been on assistance was $75.00 for the whole month .6 years ago and no cell phone gold. or cars .So how these people do it ?oh and by the way I go ti no frills once a week .Those same refugees are there every thursday spending $500.00. on goceries and none of them work .Some time neighbours talk and thats how things are know .Our government is a big lier .We the tax payers are paying for all of these Once a refugee of this country one canot be sent back or deported so if this refugee never finds a job you the tax payer and I will pay for his or her assistance and maybe for a life time .like in the case of gypsies refugees they are all on assistance go to all the food banks rob the community of their belongins their cars items from stores donations in front of churches and stores they dress the best also spend hundreds of dollars on food they shop for clothes at the mall and we the tax payer brake our backs 6 days a week 10 hours a day like me and I cant afford even half of what these people can .So even if they become criminals we have to support them .Some refugee law and rights should be changed to ensure that tax payers are not been taking advantage of .

It is a very misleading headline. It is obvious that the specific case mentioned had some issues, although I sympathize, the is no reason a government needs to approve without following the proper rules. My take away from this video is, people like these are delaying the processing for people who genuinely need to seek asylum.

I'm sorry to hear this - Lost cases are so Rare in Canada - We're usually much more welcoming. However, is it really lost - I have a feeling that's he's an illegal immigrant, which I don't support - Everyone, wherever they are from, needs to go through the system. And The Basics, such as knowing the English language, is a must! Especially if you got a family, no one is going to hire someone without the basics.

Some justice for people waiting sometimes years to legally enter Canada. Illegal immigration must be treated as it is: Illegal. And really? 15 years in the US and not speaking English; not a strong case for willingness to integrate

Best Buys does this to me also, I don't believe It's rascally motivated in this case.

I'll lay it out for you: Me: typical middle of the road liberal oriented Canadian. Non white, immigrant (I wasnt born here) I worked in a Refugee housing for over 4 years in Ontario. Most were not war areas refugees (Yes I know there are other types of refugees). I only encountered few refugees from war areas. ONLY 1 person from Iraq, about 2 families were from Afghanistan, 1 couple from Pakistan(I doubt they were real refugees they spoke fluent English, maybe political refugee), and a most from African countries. Its too far for real refugees to get here. Its Easier for them to go to other countries nearby or Europe. MOST SEEM TO BE ECONOMIC REFUGEES. Most were coming from Africa. Some are coming from Latin America, which shouldn't be happening. Once they showed up at our doorstep and we processed them into the system, they were immediately in the same class as a Canadian resident homeless person if they were making a refugee claim. We get money to house and feed them (from the government), and they are given a stipend for basics from the government processed through the Social Assistance/ Welfare system (they get less than a resident/citizen I think.). They then have to get their case processed by the refugee board, and most seem to get in. I've only heard of few getting sent back. One person I know at our facility, was given a subsided social housing apartment after a year in our facility. So they went straight from a shelter to a government/city owned subsidized apartment. (Didn't seem like it was a issue for the housing worker...they didn't report it (if they were not the ones that helped the person to get it), they were white, the housed person was Latin. This refugee claimant, and then month or two new Canadian resident person was given an apartment in a prime area of the city, instead of the 1000's of Canadians, those who came before them, and born Canadian citizens on an extremely long waiting list. How this was allowed to happen I don't know. The person was probably sucking on someone's straw. I'm just trying to think the barriers these people have to go through to get a job here. We are far removed from the time of the 80's and 90's., and housing and jobs are so hard to get. Lol the "Canadian government asks them to repay the traveling cost to Canada if they are sent back"....I wonder how much the government recoups?.....more like 0 probably. What a bunch of crap. How do you demand someone to repay their flight cost when they get back to their country?

I think you probably messed-up your case Jose. You have to give probable causes of danger back in your home country. Its not luck. Its a process. And you can still get humanitarian. Its not cool to run to vice for this. You just don't understand how it works. You better here than in the US. Trust me.

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Those that are legimitaly seeking refugee entry will go through the process to stay alive. Those that seek entry for other reasons have to prove their case. There is a real possibility that they could be refused .

You should try for job interview, then you will encounter more of these cases but 10X worse

All these illegal immigrants know they are in this country ILLEGALLY!! There is nothing more to say!! If they can't get it through their head that what they are doing is ILLEGAL, then I don't know what to tell them. They think that because they are being hired by companies in America, that they must have a case. But what they don't understand is, the companies that hire them are ILLEGALLY hiring them and the whole kit and caboodle is ILLEGAL!!!! PERIOD!!

If would probably have helped his case if he had learned to speak English. Hopefully the Wall will send a message and end the human trafficking behind these fisastets. Though I I lived abroad and came back so I know it can be done.

Wow just take them out out case close if they want to f follow their religion and dress get the f back back to where you belong

What, did he think he would be given a free ride? Does he actually think immigrating to a new country wasn't going to cost him anything? How many years did he live in the US? And now, in Canada for the last 10+ months, yet he can't speak a fucking word of English? \n\nNow he complains that the process is taking too long, yet, had he immigrated legally (as he should have), it would have taken FAR longer and would have to spend that time inside his home country...\n\nI really don't get his attitude, he feels as though he's entitled to immigrate to the US, even though he made absolutely no effort in doing so legally, made absolutely no effort into learning the most widely spoken language on Earth, so he became a criminal by illegally crossing the border and living in the US for years... Then, when he's about to get busted and deported back to his home country, he pulls the exact same thing, illegally crosses the border into Canada, taking the money he's stolen from the US with him, while STILL unable to speak either official languages in Canada where speaking Spanish is about as useful as a condom in a lesbian orgy, nor making any effort into actually learning said languages, and tries to claim refugee status? Refugee status for what? He's not fleeing any war or conflict, the only thing he's fleeing is deportation to his home country from the US because he crossed the border into the US and lived there ILLEGALLY, he's a fucking criminal... And yet, he STILL feels he's entitled to cross the border into Canada and thinks they'll welcome him with open arms...\n\nWhere do these people get the idea that they have the RIGHT to just enter whatever country they wish without having to go through the immigration process? These processes are there for a reason, we don't allow just anyone to immigrate here...\n\nImmigrating to the US is a PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT... Immigrating to Canada is a PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT... \n\nThe fact that this guy and his family have entered 2 countries ILLEGALLY and stayed within its borders ILLEGALLY for all this time, and in both cases, REFUSED to learn the language, and when he was about to be deported back, he fled and kept hiding from immigration officers... That makes him and his family CRIMINALS, and rightfully so... They should be found immediately, arrested and subsequently deported back to the US to face whatever charges, and then deported back to his home country... Period...

He illegally enters the U.S., doesn't seem to understand why ICE wants to deport him.  So he illegally enters Canada and doesn't seem to understand why they want to deport him.  So instead he plays the system by moving about to get his case 'put to the bottom of the pile' to cheat yet MORE time to stay in Canada illegally.  Then when he gets told 'NO', he changes up and says he no longer in any danger of returning but now it's humanitarian.  Time to pack up and move back to El Salvador and turn your home country into what you want it to be.

I honestly feel bad for him and his family but #1 as the said you can't just hope over the border and climate refugee status unless you are under asylum. #2 he did play the system by moving his family to another province...not only is that a guaranteed depotiaton when the case comes up but it will hinder any re applications in the future....Buddy screwed up big time.

These are not asylum migrant, but economical migrants. Why dont they go back home and make el Salvador better? Afraid to work for peanuts? Then, you can start your own revolution. They do not come to the US to integrate but only for the money as clearly demonstrated in this case, F..k him and his family.

The issue is that the intending migrants and the general public are ignorant as to asylum law. The public think of asylum as some far reaching, grandiose humanitarian gesture- when the truth is that asylum laws provide an EXTREMELY LIMITED basis of relief. \n\nMerely coming from a dangerous country is NOT enough to win asylum, in the U.S. or Canada. A person must prove they are specifically persecuted, by the GOVERNMENT, because of some specific basis. A Central American claiming Central America is full of gangs and poverty, while true, is NOT a basis for asylum. This is why it's my personal belief that the thousands of Haitians making a run for the Canadian border have an almost zero chance of receiving asylum- ESPECIALLY after NOT living in Haiti for many years. \n\nIn spite of this, migrants still make these claims because it forces the country to go through a time consuming legal process, and is a way to buy time and prevent their deportation. Or perhaps allow them time to find a local job, continue their education, or have a child born in the country and then make a humanitarian argument to allow them to stay, even after losing their asylum case. \n\nThe truth is, unless a country holds asylum seekers in detention for the entirety of the process, it's a given that failed asylum seekers will NOT return to their country of origin, and will simply go underground.

Vice seriously your losing all credibility. Put up a big story about this dudes sob case. Only getting his side of the story.. of coarse he’s going to paint the picture of being a victim. “The lawyer lost my file” sounds like bullshit. Then he gets ordered to show up at the court house and doesn’t show on purpose.. then complains about being in Canada. Well I’m sorry to tell you man but The states wouldn’t take you either. And evading the government won’t be helping your case.

yup. It would be really difficult to immigrate to Alberta now. Our unemployment rates at ridiculously high, our provincial deficit is out of control, and our main resource is showing few signs of actual recovery. It's probably the worst province to attempt to move to. This is a sad story, and it breaks my heart, but I definitely understand why cases like this are so common.

The United States needs to enforce more laws and cases like this.

There are many thieves as lawyers in Canada . They will present shitty cases knowing very well they won’t go through .

Perhaps you lost your case because you didn't qualify. You made an economic Gamble and you lost. Having said that, Trudeau sold you a bill of goods. Another example of liberals harming the people they claim to help.

I thought he was going to win his case...

Yup its because they label him a criminal. Although the truth is that is not the case. He make money for himself and the country he works in but his not an engineer, doctor and or millionare. a lot of billionaire chinses live there. Its seems its being rich or poor

Lawyers will prey on your vulnerabilities and feed you all types of false hope for 15k. That man should have stayed here and laid low until his wife or son could have petitioned for him. Then he could've applied for a waiver which he may have succeeded in getting depending on whether he had the right case around that time. I could have told him this for 50 bucks. #mercedeslaw

It sounds like the Canadian immigration system gave him two chances to make a refugee claim and he was ultimately unsuccessful. Did Vice News discover that his case was treated unfairly? If not, there is no news here.

I thought you get your money back if your lawyer loses the case.

Learn English. May help you with your case.

Started from the bottom.. lol.. African American Cash Money Records.. Love one another, case with the divisions.. Newsflash: the world doesn't care what kind or shade of Black you are! Only love conquers hate...

According to the latest statistics, Between March and October 2017, around 15,000 refugee cases has been claimed on the Canada-US borders, over half of them have been rejected and found not eligible to be referred to the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada (IRB), which is the one to determine whether one is in need of Canada's protection or not. In this period, around 600 Cases were processed by the IRB, and close to 500 were officially accepted. People in the comments are freaking out over these numbers when Canada's economy needs no less than 250K immigrants per year to sustain itself. The system is working fine. Relax.

Well, if that is the case all we need to do is have more number of minority in the shop at the same time asking some real quetion and see how busy are they then.

The amount of people prosecuted by racism is so small that we would be better to deal with individual cases also it's not going away as long as people are different well always complain about something it's in our nature

We need to get a massive army together and sort these cunts out and fuck the consequences. I am willing are you or is it a case of all mouth and no action.

all countries ruled by this retarded religion are in shit creek..... if they are going to come here at least they should better our society.. which is not the case!!! go away retards!!

They cover up just so not to get beat up by their appointed chosen husband & not out of respect to not show off as is simply not the case or true. There men of their culture are so insecure as otherwise why not take pride & show your bride in modest but cute clothing as is in the Western world. Men can flex & puff up & not need to shut up but women being denied to show their beauty is selfish. They are bound up like a mummy & gagged like a hostage, what the hell is wrong with this picture?

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I am muslim and I completely understand why would canadians hate muslims being part of their land. well it's their land not ours (muslims) .. so I actually think that muslims have no right to impose themselves unless they are canadians and not immigrants. well any case I'm neither this not that. Juts wanted to say what I was thinking. Have a nice day.

Islam means submit or submission. Case closed.

I dont have anything against immigrants from other countries. Muslims, however, are a real concern to me. Why? Because they're the only people who refuse to adapt to another way of life (e.g. American, Canadian). Oh, yeah, but they do insist that everyone else adapt to their way life -- in some cases, on the pain of death! \n\nGet them out of Europe! Get them out of the Americas!

I've literally walked out from a IGA with a case of Heineken in my hands with people looking at me and thinking it was normal and paid for it lmao..

Ah good the main stream news reminding us were all evil racists... just in case you forgot.

Same as biker's and hoodies don't come in my shop with your face covered I will tell you to fuck off in case you start stealing I want to see your face. If I cant see you don't come in my shop and fuck off.