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2024-05-28 1
As a hindi speaking Indian I.T. professional, I don't understand why Punjabis, Gujaratis, and Tamil Indians are always dying to move to Canada? I lived in Canada and didn't find Canada all that great. I'd say America is a far better country than Canada. I guess it's mostly blue collar immigrants who are desperate to move to Canada, live with 6+ adults and don't mind dealing with racist disrespectful Canadians. It's funny this guy is making YouTube videos with a title Time to Leave. It's the Canadian governments who has been desperately bringing blue collar immigrants from all over the world for the past 30 years. It's not only Liberals. Cons brought 400K each year too. Canadian economy is dependent on housing and bringing immigrants. Canadian Colleges, unionized employees, and unions LOVE bringing International students from India so they can enjoy those luxury wages and benefits. Blame the Canadian Colleges and those unionized White management who hold events in India. The fact of the matter is this YouTuber is another frustrated whining Canadian who has NO power or authority but loves to whine. His opinions are just opinions and will not change anything. Canadians with power will continue bringing 3rd world immigrants and students. Lmao
2024-05-25 0
I have an idea. Why cant Indians fix their own country and then they wouldnt have to leave? They clearly leave because of quality of life and job opportunity. Why arent there good quality of life in India? What is the reason for it? Is it a religious cause? Is it the government? I dont understand.
2024-05-22 0
Being an Indian living in India I can tell you one thing that mostly people who are not 'good enough' in anything pay lumsum amount of money to move to Canada. For instance, most of the students going to Canada for study, lack foundational knowledge that should've been taught to them at school. Take a GRE-like exam by randomly selecting Indians residing in this area and u will understand what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, the current Canadian govt knows this and capitalise on this problem as they have turned the education system of Canada into a money-vending machine. Furthermore, no skill development opportunities and lack of jobs intensify these problems as these individuals are never exposed in a multicultural urban setting. That is why likeminded individuals aggregate and live in silos. Lastly, for my Indian brothers and sisters, I would like to say that yall should try to assimilate with the culture rather than live in silos. That doesn't necessarily mean yall should abandon ur religion and culture, but try to participate more in various activities associated with Canadian culture. Like Im a Hindu, but I participate in Eid & Christmas as well in India.. We should be open to new experiences, especially when moving to a foreign country, one should be able to adapt.. just like one adapts to the weather, one should also embrace the culture.. Try talking to people who are 'non-Indians', have a genuine conversation, find out the history of the place and various other key milestones in the region.. mostly engage in amicable social behaviour. Holding grudge & closing doors to new interactions would not solve anything, neither for Canadians nor for immigrants.. Live and let live.. Cheers!
2024-05-22 0
I dont understand why did they divide Hindu and Indians into different Minorities' Groups. Bruh.... INDIANS & HINDU$ both go hand in hand together since HINDUISM primarily and originally only Belongs to INDIA as we know and understand.
2024-05-22 0
Sikhs are the warriors but bro it's dangerous to bring a khife in a campus where people don't know why you carry the knife.\nIt's a Sikh symbol Indians understand but not the west people, they will obviously be shocked.
2024-05-16 0
I talked with my Indian friend who is working at Tim’s now. I said,” I'm not an Indian international student, do I have the chance to work in your branch”? He said no! I understand that they want to help their people overseas, but it also breaks the diversity as well. You go to Walmart, Tims most of them are Indians. I told him even though the Chinese supermarket and the restaurant hired Indians, I had never seen any Indians hire Chinese in here. I don't want to say this is discrimination, It is just about order and fairness.
2024-05-14 0
Canada is a corporation and I guess the more immigrants WE have then the GDP looks better. I am a Canadian and my mother was born here and my grandmother came to Canada in 1907 from the USA when she was 7 years old. I was born in the 1940s and brought up in rural surroundings. Back then We had traditional beliefs and I had farming background. Connection of relatives and helping our neighbours were how We lived. I became a schoolteacher. I saw that in 1954 when I went to school that learning was not natural and it was fear based. Then I completed a dip. of ed psy and then I decided that if I ever wanted to help change the system that I would require at least an m. ed. - leadership. I knew the university I went to would not be able to say no to me when I applied to get into this program. However, I was too much of an negative influence on the younger students and had to finish the last couple of classes at home and which I did. Today, the families have been divided, people do not connect or communicate properly and I have to question what living skills did I learn? Instead, my head was filled with propaganda which sadly, I've had to relearn. I say, stay in your own country and fix it there. Indian has some wonder ancient wisdoms for healing and health. The OWNERS of our nations like the banking families realize that when new immigrates come in that they assimilate more, and the older generations begin to question what THEY were taught and why. I remember when say a barn burned down or one had to be built that neighbours would help build the barn for the farmer. Then we would all celebrate and the women would get together and cook the food and we would have a barn dance. Life was simple then, but connection was authentic and we didnt lose ourselves. We must know ourselves and our history or we are lost and so many people live in chaos and ignorance. Learn to become our Divine selves. Learn to understand that WE are living in a fictional world when We are educated to be who we are not.
2024-05-14 0
Im Bangladeshi-American, born in America. My parents were immigrants. I dont understand how its anyone's concern what language people speak with family and friends or if someone does not know English. In a free country, you can speak whatever language you want, wear your cultural clothing, and eat your culture's food. why does one need to adapt to the local area? The law doesnt oblige them... Also, these indians came legally no? In a democratic Canada that let them in... people voted for this directly or indirectly. Also, to your point, its the whites that are homeless and on drugs, how are indians to blame for white failure in Brampton? Indians have strong work and study ethic, so you should welcome that. Itll help your nation progress. These people are just racist. They dont want non-whites to become a majority. Thats all it comes down to.
2024-05-14 0
I am an international student as well and i can totally understand the situation of my community student and it is not just for Indians but for other international students from some other countries are also suffering because of unfair PNP draws. The thing is that only Indian came in-front to raise their voice and media is targeting Indians to leave. This is not fair at all. At least government should provide justice to them, as every international student on work permit are doing hard work to serve the community. Please, do not spread manipulative messages against Indians. Thanks
2024-05-14 0
Indians and their fake certificates. I’ve met so many Indians, who are supposed be be C1 level, stuttering and confused when asked a question. Most importantly, you don’t understand their accent.
2024-05-13 0
?Indian here. Regarding those students if the Canadian society has some economic & cultural issues to accommodate them we are ready to take them back. Ask Canadian government to request GOI to provide chartered flights for the same. Because last time your Führer I mean PM visited we noticed some technical issues related to your national aircraft.\n\nPlease note that Indians ready to accept students those have Indian citizenship only. That doesn't mean you can resend your current MPs (including hagmeat / jagmeet whatever ) who gave standing ovation to a former Nazi inside the Canadian parliament. Hope you understand . Long live the land of ?
2024-05-13 0
Indians work hard and they educate themselves. Look who’s taking over the restaurant industry in Ontario. Look at the number of doctors, IT professionals, engineers and other professions. Indians, especially Sikhs, are heavily involved in farming. We Canadians, and I’m a third generation Canadian, have become content and lazy. Most of us won’t put in the hard hours on a farm or restaurant or the hard hours and dedication to become doctors. Like it or not we need immigrants. And when Poilievre wins the next federal election you can be sure he understands what immigrants bring and how vital they are to our aging country.
2024-05-13 0
I can say this ! WE CANADIANS ARE NOT , NOT , NOT, RACISTS? OR PREDJUDICE? \nON ANY TRADITIONAL BASIS! BUT MYSELF, AND OTHERS, AND BELIEVE ME? I STRIKE UP CONVERSATIONS WITH PERFECT CANADIAN STRANGERS? AND I VOICE MY VIEW? AND I ASK FOR THEIRS?.............NOW LISTEN, AND LISTEN CLOSELY!!! EVERYBODY??\nYES! I HAVE NOTICED , SEVERAL YEARS AGO? THE PAKISTANI/ INDIAN / INVASION !!!\nYES WHAT APPEARS TO ME ? AS AN INVASION! OF CANADA !!!! I MEAN THESE PEOPLE ?\nARE EVERY WHERE!!! AND I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOLKS I MEET ON THE STREET? \nTO COMPARE VIEWS? AND WHAT I NOTICE! ALSO? TRYING MY BEST TO NOT SOUND LIKE A RACIST? AND YES! THESE FOLKS READILY UNDERSTAND??? MEANING CANADIANS! AND MANY , YES MANY HAVE SAID FAMILY MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED TOO! AND HERE I JUMP IN ? AND SAY TO THEM!! IT IS THE LIBERALS WHO HAVE DONE THIS!!! THEY ALL LOOK AT ME? AND NOD? OR SAY OUT RIGHT YES! BUT THEY ARE \nDEFINATELY RETICENT TO SAY SO!!!! I BELIEVE THE LIBERALS HAVE TAKEN THIS MULTICULTURAL STUFF ??? WAY TOO FAR!!! IMMIGRATION IS OK? IF IT IS SLOW? \nA LITTLE AT A TIME? AND THESE FOLKS DO NOT BECOME DEMANDING! I PAID HUGE \nTAXES !! ALL MY LIFE! I HAVE HAD A HARD TIME! also, these immigrants need a lot of time to assimilate as Canadians! Also, I do not support , immigrants becoming members of Parliament in Ottawa? unless they are the third generation canadian born! BUT OTTAWA? IN MY VIEW ? HAS LOST ITS LEGITIMACY AND COMMON SENSE! WE NEED THE CONSERVATIVES IN POWER FOR A GOOD LONG TIME! THE LIBERALS ARE OUT OF CONTROL ? IN MY VIEW! \nAND MANY OF THESE PAKISTANIS/ AND INDIANS? MUST BE DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR COUNTRIES! FOR ME ? IT IS ALL TOO MUCH! kennethzakaib607@gmail.com\nMontreal 2024. AND I AM A GOD FEARING MAN TOO! I SAY THIS WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE ! I AM OK! WITH IMMIGRATION? AS LONG AS IT IS GRADUAL AND BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE ECONOMY! NOT SOMETHING THE LIBERALS USE TO REPLACE CANADIANS! IN THE NEXT ELECTION!! SERIOUSLY!
2024-05-10 0
I don't understand the numbers, i am Canadian and we are only 41 millions in the entire Canada, yeah we did let 1.5 million immigrants in in the last 4 years but the number doesn't add up and second i can see more Chinese and black than indian peoples. Nothing is accurate in your dramatic calculation. Anyway those immigrants will go away after a couple of months when they see in 2024 that a rent for an apartment costs between 1500$ to 2200$ per month and with 100$ of foods we can barely live 4 days
2024-05-05 0
Im am from the Philippines and when I came here in Canada. I was expecting a lot of Canadians in the city to my surprised I see a lot of Indians. Also, I dont understand why the incomers dont respect the Canadians by speaking english in any public places, cause if I am on same shoe I would be irritated. I have lots of respect for the Canadians and their culture, incomers should adapt and conform.Hope the immigration make some changes to control this.
2024-05-04 0
i am from hamilton and we are still very diverse here. yes brampton is quiet loaded with indians. i think what has failed is the requirements for immigration has dropped. i mean we use to have highly educated people come in but now the standards have dropped. so anyone with low standards can come walk in. pubjabi votes for jagmeet or trudeau and they are the group with highest crimes in india the state of punjab and there is a big drug and drinking culture that comes here. the minute our standards grow up with immigration requirements then we will get more educated bunch coming in. when we have greedy power hungry people run the country this is what happens. now people are fed up. the other day i was at freshco and some white guys started to lecture me and he openly admitted he is a racist. i pulled out my camera and started to record. he backed off but he could have done anything. he rude and stupid. i was also quiet upset. people were not like this and were more accepting. i can understand his frustration but he said openly he was racist and called me Fxxxxxxx indian etc... this is out of line. i also gave him a mouth full. i told him i have been here 35 years and his mood changed but its quiet disappointing how people react. its not safe or respectful. not sure where we are headed in canada.
2024-05-01 0
I had lived in brampton since 2000, and one by one all the neighbors on the street moved out and the residents were replaced with an indian family. The street went from a very friendly place to feeling very isolated and cold... I could never understand what caused it until I moved out of brampton and got back the canadian feeling from my street/area.
2024-05-01 0
India India have been fighting against this virus for since 7th century and we are still fighting..... European can't even imagine at what extent did our ancestors protect their Sanatan Dharma....\n\nNow you will understand what Indian have been saying for decades
2024-04-29 0
I understand canadians frustration but the country's economy has to sustain and it cannot sustain with the white drug addicts who dont wanna work for living. The country needs brains and India is full of it. Brampton city fund is nothing but money from indian tax payers.
2024-04-29 0
UK is worse...but white ppl are the ones legislating it. Indians are good people but i can understand the culture shock of living in canada or uk but seeing immigrants majority population. odd indeed but im canadian too from immigrants so idk....wht ppl seem to be everywhere too invading asian nations...
2024-04-24 0
Canada can't continue with this amount of immigration. Honestly, IMO, Canada should only be considering skilled immigrants, and importantly, immigrants who can speak either English or French articulately. My daughter had a resident doctor who was Indian, who was going to perform a procedure which included using a scalpel on her tongue (she was tongue tied, minimally). I couldn't understand a word he was saying, neither could she. He got so mad he threw the scalpel at the wall. I went and got the supervising physician, and we got the procedure done. My point here is, yes we need skilled workers, but they need to be able to communicate with the general public.\nAlso, the family reunification program needs to be overhauled. No seniors unless the sponsors can pay for them out of pocket until death; and no extra money for children who are brought over that arent the sponsors biological children.
2024-04-22 0
I'm a true Canadian born and raised I'm sorry to say this if we don't have Indian in Canada then sorry Canada will die slowly..there very intelligent understanding and they give all like us true Canadian...please stay thanks
2024-04-22 0
You also have to understand that all Indians that are coming to Bramladesh are from Punjab. Trust me no other Indian wants to come to Brampton.
2024-04-20 0
My friend lives in White Rock BC......On a recent visit I felt like I was in my old town of Fremint, California.....The majority of people weren't born in North America but from the same area of the globe. We went to eat @ his favorite restaurant and it had changed to Indian cusine. I don't know about Canada but, in the USA they game the government assistance systems and use the funds to import more of their relatives. I don't understand why the USA allows a foreigner even after they become a citizen to bring in their elderly parents and collect Social Security funds when they NEVER worked a day of their lives in the USA or contributed to the system. Its EVIL & CORRUPT!
2024-04-20 0
Categories were so wrong(Indian, punjabi, sikh, hindu, pakistani, ??). You don't even understand them and allow mass immigration. What a trash government.
2024-04-19 1
I don’t understand all the Indian Hindus pressed about this lol
2024-04-18 0
Indians should really have their groups abroad... Whenever shit goes south like this... Make sure 50 men show up!\nThe that only language these people understand!
2024-04-17 0
Leave him alone, don't laugh at him or bully him treat him with dignity just like that Indian guy did, because mental sickness is real sickness..\n\nKudos to the delivery guy for understanding that & acting accordingly..
2024-04-17 0
I’m looking for a place and all of them said Indians only I have the screenshots. One man felt bad because I replied and said I understand and no worries he felt so bad and I kept telling him not to and that I understand then he said he will ask the other 2 Indian ppl if they’d mind but I didn’t reply. My daughter got replaced with an Indian only 2 or 3 months later the Indian girl came to work took my daughters position and then told her to clean tables and that’s because they don’t think Canadians work as good as they do and also because they had to hire her to make it seem multicultural and I say this because they only hired 2 black girls and my daughter has never ever worked with her they put their schedules separate
2024-04-14 0
Everyone complaining should ask themselves a few questions. These Indians and by extent all immigrants have significant barriers. I'll refer to only indians here. They have names which are hard to pronounce. Some of them have a look only a mother can love. They cant speak as well as we do. We cannot understand them. Majority of them come here w nothing. Yet...yet...they have become THE Richest diaspora in America and they are not doing too badly here in Canada as well. Now you have to ask yourself why is this the case. They start frombthe bottom and in 20 years or less they end up at the top. I think most rational sane ppl will know the answer, other immigrants will know the answer. The answer is: they work hard at educating themselves and then they work hard at their jobs. Some of you will say they get tax breaks and child tax subsidies etc. But those things are handouts...its not designed for you to become rich from, just to keep from drowning. So its not handouts. They literally work hard all their lives. Do you see any of them at the ball game? Or out partying? Or out having a grand time. The same ones delivering your uber eats in 20 years will be richer than you. Even with all the barriers I mentioned before. I am an Eastern European national whos been here for the past 40 years.
2024-04-13 0
Being an immigrant myself I have to say that what one might see happening in Brampton happens to another cities as the result of sexual revolution, abortion and the destruction of the family that came to be in Canada since the 70s. I’m a Canadian citizen and married to a Canadian born citizen and we have talked about this many times. In order to recover this country families need to have more autonomy on raising children but also parents have to be more involved. It’s true there’s a lot of Indians everywhere and guess what they tend to keep their values. Here in Canada as per my understanding people used to pray the Our Father in public schools and children used to get bibles, families used to go to church and now? \nThere needs to be a very big swift in policies and others but the biggest swift needs to come from families within.
2024-04-12 0
I understand that my indian brother have some money problem thats why he dont want to loose job otherwise he can easily make a shit out of that guy?
2024-04-12 0
Why is the concept of multiculturalism so hard for Canadians to understand ?\nThis isn’t your country. In a multicultural society, there is not an official culture that every person must be a part of.\nThis is the result of it like it or not. In other words you did this to yourself.\nNow you want to cry about it ? Seriously ?\nI see comments of people saying “I don’t recognize my country anymore” , “ I don’t feel at home in my own country” and I can’t help but laugh.\nI have been warning people about this since the 90’s , cause anyone with an average IQ saw this coming and BELIEVE me this is just the beginning of what’s to come. So brace yourselves cause this is going to be a hell of a ride ?\nYes Canadians are nice…….nice to their own detriment.\nFuture of this country ?\n1) at some point Quebec is going solo.\n2) one culture will be the dominant one ( either Indians or Chinese )I predict Chinese.\n3) the USA is not going to like it\n4) civil unrest will ensue and civil war to follow.\n5) the USA will come and smack us around and take over.\n6) No More Canada.\n??
2024-04-12 0
It's the same thing in Ottawa. I moved here in 2019 from Montreal and the culture shock was immediate. I've already made up my mind to leave the country because it's absolutely finished. If all goes to plan, I'll be out of here by 2026. Canada will become an Indian majority country in less than 20 years and Canadians are asleep at the switch. They don't seem to understand or care what happens when you dump a million or more immigrants per year into a country of just 40M and while Indians aren't bad people per se, even they will tell you that the new stock of Indians coming into the country isn't the same as the old. They're far more tribal than they ever used to be. Trudeau opened the floodgates, but I don't think Poilievre will be able to close them. I live in his riding and there are a loooot of indians here. There's no way he'll want to risk stirring up the hornet's nest. The Canada we knew is on death's doorstep.
2024-04-12 0
Ok.. I haven’t any issues with the Indian people. I would however like to see certain things adopted for everyone’s sake. For example; fast food has been popular since the 60’s & 70’s it hit popular because menu items were tested and the way a burger is assembled right down to the condiments was worked out by the franchisers and food experts in the North Americans tastes and preferences. To be uncomfortably honest. I have not had a burger from a fast food restaurant that I truly enjoyed for a few years now. And I suspect that franchisees from India and the preferred employees also Indian do not grow up eating North American cuisine and do not fundamentally understand how foul too much condiments can make an item. And there is seemingly Zero effort to learn how to correctly assemble the products. Quite frankly I would be surprised if the employees that do the work would eat the food they make due to the culinary culture. And if they do.. I doubt it prepared in the same manner as for average customers. I just don’t think mayonnaise, ketchup & mustard are used in India on food. How would we expect them to understand the mistake at all.
2024-04-12 0
Listen as a minority person who is proud of my heritage but grew up here with immigrant parents who were given refuge in Canada, I can understand immigration. But...its getting out of hand, most of them are from India, most of them have homes in India and often return there for long vacations, These are not refugees or a diverse spread of peoples coming here. I am not hateful in any way but sometimes you have to tell it like it is, A lot of these people are not adapting to the culture here, why? Because most of them are grown already and are used to their own customs, with an ever increasing population now living here they don't really feel the need to learn or adapt because there are less regular Canadians. When I was in school it was already pretty multi-cultural and diverse although yes in my area there are less asians and black people, we had a lot of European(Serbian/Romanian) in particular. Now I go to the store and it's like 80% brown/Indian people lol, even my neighbors, most have moved out and more indian families are moving in. My city is expanding into like a mini Toronto when we can't even handle it, people cant even find jobs, people need all this other stuff, Its just too many all at once, crime rates have gone up over the last few years, this doesn't help anyone, immigrants either.
2024-04-12 1
I Don't understand why we Indians go abroad for the name and sake of study and then find these types of cheap and low paying jobs along to carry our expenses , do their slavery and above that get abused, robbed and face such racism even being innocent . ?‍♂?
2024-04-11 0
What I don't understand is why there is not an equal mix of eastern & western Europeans along with Indian & Asians. The glut of foreign students is also a question of educational institutional greed by preferring to prioritize the 4 to 5 times tuition demand rather than serve domestic students needs. It is a situation that has seriously negatively impacted the housing crisis. This is on the level of deliberate criminal profiteering. We also have a real problem of commercial college fraud with schools that have junk curriculums. Students who take these courses are locked out of the job market.
2024-04-11 4
The cities in MB are looking the same, with every business owned, operated and staffed by Indians. I don't understand how many Indians can afford to buy franchises, yet old-stock Canadians can't. Why is that? ??
2024-04-11 0
I agree about integration. And it’s not just about Indians. For example, here in Calgary almost all barbershops are run by East Africans. Whenever I try to explain something in plain English, they have a hard time understanding me. Or when they try to start a small talk but when I answer their question, they have no idea what I said. It gets super frustrating when people just can’t understand you due to their poor language skills. Am I the only immigrant who learned the language at a high enough level to function in the society BEFORE I came to the country? It’s not like there’s a war in India so they have no time to learn English before coming here.
2024-04-11 0
Got the same going on further north of GTA east Indians starting spread up hear barrie and further. They have the same attitude ? its frustrating they can barely speak English and they have an attitude if we can't understand what there saying..they don't seem to have any interest in fitting into Canadian culture. And want to bring there way of living here .
2024-04-10 0
We should also understand there is huge frustration in west against brown people because of pakistanies, arabs. Sometimes we indians also come in the line of fire.
2024-04-09 0
Why indian go to Canada i dont understand?
2024-04-09 0
Its hightime that Indians understand why they shouldnot leave their country to serve some outsiders. They will never include you so stop working for them
2024-04-09 0
Dear north Indians, i guess now you guys can understand a little bit about our feelings how a north-eastern feels in his /her own country.
2024-04-08 0
I can understand both sides. \n\nTrudeau government messed up and took in low quality blue collar immigrants, so many canadians hate Indians now.
2024-04-05 0
M sure this indian guy can beat your ass , you can see the rage but he is trying to stay calm and understand ( the call) the situation and not keep abusing like an immature .\n\nIt's a logic ....if u pay an order in cash on recieving , you should keep exact amount in hand .....especially in this time of digitalised money
2024-04-04 0
You have to understand what is driving this. The Lieberals in Canada are similar to the Demoncrats in the USA. They want this immigration to continue indefinitely, for political reasons. In Canada, the vast majority of immigration is from brown people coming from India. These people multiply like rabbits in heat, the Lieberals assume that is how they will e land their electoral base moving forward. One Indian woman in heat can start having kids at 16 and older, unlike our native population of millennials, who would rather have pets rather than children. And of course the Lieberals assume all these brown people will overwhelmingly vote for them moving forward. In the USA, it’s brown people coming in too, but these are Hispanic browns, and they are mostly coming in illegally. Demoncrats see all this illegal immigration as a way to increase their voting base moving forward. Don’t believe what Truduh is saying about this, he’s simply blowing smoke and mirrors.
2024-04-01 1
As an Indian, I feel sorry to all,\nI understand your frustration and not getting enough jobs/wages.\n\nWhat should we do? When Canadian University/college Doubled International seats, people will definitely try to fill it up.\n\nWho is responsible for approving twice the amount of international seats?\n\nThere are many courses in colleges that have no value at all after graduation. \n\nWhy Immigration Officer not behave strictly and didn't ask a question on not valued courses?\n\nThe final decision is on Immigration officer's hand, whether to approve candidates or not, then why did they approve tons of number of students?\n\nMay be government policy or something else, I don't know.\n\nAgain, I feel sorry to all. We have no intention to snatch others' jobs.\n\nBut this chaos has been done by the government, and reverse migration is happening now.
2024-03-25 0
I don't understand this when the Indians were protesting the pipeline play Sodom with maze can't water cannons they had dogs why not here
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